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Vanessa Berni
2006-07-28 16:17:03 UTC
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Hello!
I'm trying to improve my english ... I listen to ESL Podcast and I can
understand almost everything ...

I've tried to watch some movies but the result was not so good!!!
I've watched "Back to the Future I and II" and "Love Actually"... the
problem are not the word ... I know almost all the words used but I just
can't recognize them while the actors talk... they talk too quick!!!
Can you suggest me movies easier to understand?!


Thanks
Vanessa
Chris Croughton
2006-07-28 20:10:21 UTC
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On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:17:03 GMT, Vanessa Berni
Post by Vanessa Berni
Hello!
I'm trying to improve my english ... I listen to ESL Podcast and I can
understand almost everything ...
I've tried to watch some movies but the result was not so good!!!
I've watched "Back to the Future I and II" and "Love Actually"... the
problem are not the word ... I know almost all the words used but I just
can't recognize them while the actors talk... they talk too quick!!!
Can you suggest me movies easier to understand?!
Well, for a start they are American and not English (and I can't always
understand what they say in American movies, I'm English). Also movies
typically have a lot of other noise (background music, effects, etc.)
which makes it difficult. Also they tend to use colloquial language,
often not in complete sentences. Have you listened to the BBC World
Service and other news type broadcasts? They tend to be slower and less
colloquial.

It's a complaint of all learners that the native speakers are "too
fast". It's a true complaint, and the only way to learn it once you
have the vocabulary is practice, gradually speeding up and listening to
more variations of the language (dialects, speakers from other
countries, etc.). American (and Australian) can be considered almost a
dialect of English, there are so many differences in word usage,
pronunciation and even in grammar (and American and British English are
themselves very variable depending on region, a native of the Bronx and
one from the deep south are hardly talking the same language, the same
with a Geordie and a Scouse (north east England and Liverpool
respectively)).

I suspect that the movies for children may be the best for someone not
fluent in the language -- the Harry Potter ones, for example, especially
the first. Some of the earlier Disney cartoons (not the very early
ones, which were 'silent'!), things like Snow White and its successors.
Movies made for children do tend to use slightly simpler language and be
spoken slower.

I hope that helps...

Chris C
Stephan Mann
2006-07-29 00:29:06 UTC
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Post by Vanessa Berni
Can you suggest me movies easier to understand?!
As Chris said, British English is much easier to understand. If you like
Science Fiction, I'd like to suggest "Doctor Who", which is quite an
interesting series and, in my opinion, very easy to understand.

As for american movies, it's all about training. I'm watching nearly all
movies in english now for five years and still don't understand
everything. At the beginning, I had to watch them several times until I
understood them, but that gets better very quickly.

stephan
Chris Croughton
2006-07-30 12:08:55 UTC
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 02:29:06 +0200, Stephan Mann
Post by Stephan Mann
Post by Vanessa Berni
Can you suggest me movies easier to understand?!
As Chris said, British English is much easier to understand. If you like
Science Fiction, I'd like to suggest "Doctor Who", which is quite an
interesting series and, in my opinion, very easy to understand.
I don't know that BrEnglish is intrinsically easier to understand than
AmEnglish (I'm sure Americans would say the reverse!). But the British
'formal' use of the language (news broadcasts and the like, especially
those intended for children) is still more standardised than the
American versions from what I've seen and heard.
Post by Stephan Mann
As for american movies, it's all about training. I'm watching nearly all
movies in english now for five years and still don't understand
everything. At the beginning, I had to watch them several times until I
understood them, but that gets better very quickly.
I fnd that with modern movies in general, they seem to go for fast pace
and lots of effects rather than dialog. My impression is that older
movies (both American and British) used more dialogue and fewer
colloquialisms and as a result are easier ti understand for people less
familiar with the language.

Try, for example, the "Carry On" comedies, or the Bob Hope "Road..."
ones, the dialogue seems slower and more precisely pronounced (not as
slurred as in modern movies), and far more of the humour is in the
dialogue than in the effects. The Sean Connery and Roger Moore James
Bond movies as well.

Chris C
Kielipuoli
2006-07-31 20:23:40 UTC
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Post by Vanessa Berni
Can you suggest me movies easier to understand?!
Hi, Vanessa. Whichever movie you choose to see, if you are using DVD,
look for subtitles (many DVDs include subtitles in English for the
deaf, and/or subtitles in different languages). If you see the words
written in English the same time as you listen to the movie, it will be
a lot easier for you to understand.

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